Some doubt the existence of apiary vicinity mating but I have witnessed it myself more than a a dozen times, mostly queens flying from Apideas but once from a full colony where the queen was being superseded.
It always seems to occur on hot sunny days in the afternoon, exactly when you would expect queens to fly. This somewhat contradicts the suggestion that apiary vicinity mating is a strategy for mating locally in poor weather conditions.
A queen takes various orientation flights solo, and these can be taken early in the day. However, on the actual mating flight, she is often accompanied by a ‘mating swarm’ of several hundred bees. This may possibly be for protection, or could have some other role in attracting drones.
In the case of Apideas, the Apidea often completely empties for the duration of the mating process as all the bees are with the queen.
The bees circle around with the queen for ten to fifteen minutes, usually about eight to ten feet off the ground, not at a greater height as they are alleged to do at congregation areas. The swarm attracts drones from the colonies in the apiary and there may be many hundreds present. I have not witnessed a ‘drone comet’ as shown in some queen mating videos. I have walked through one of these ‘swarms’ and seen the drone concentration for myself, and have also seen the virgin queen in the air.
The bees ‘float’ slowly around over the apiary in a circular pattern, and the process is silent, not like the frenetic hum you hear with an ordinary swarm.
When the queen has mated, the workers return to the Apidea and start to fan at the entrance. I don’t know if the queen returns first or whether the workers fan at the entrance to attract her back.
If you witness this process and check the Apidea two or three days later, you will invariably find the queen has started to lay.
Sometimes the queen alights on a branch or a post and the bees settle around her as they would with any swarm. In this case, they may fail to return to the Apidea. I have retrieved several of these mini swarms and they always contain a mated queen.
I retrieved one in the morning which had spent the previous night twenty feet up a Lime tree which was giving shade to the Apideas. The queen started to lay three days later.
I have seen this behaviour for three years in a row at three different apiaries, so it seems to be a general phenomenon.
The bees were sub species Apis mellifera mellifera, or near native in all apiaries. I don’t know if other subspecies do this as well, as I have no experience of working with them. They may do, but I keep only Amm/near native bees.
I don’t believe all my queens mate locally and some must fly to more distant congregation areas but I have no idea what percentage flies further afield or what governs the choice of venue.
Some of my black queens produce a percentage of yellow workers and I suspect that these are the ones which have flown to a more distant congregation area.
I always graft from queens I am confident about such as Galtee origin stock.
Yellow abdomen colour is dominant over black (Woyke, 1976) and will show up as banding in the worker offspring if the virgin has mated with some yellow drones.
When I check, the queens which have mated over my own apiary always produce
dark offspring. This is very useful for the bee breeder if you have organised the drone colonies properly in your own apiary.
Jon Getty, October 2013
I went to the apiary today and on arrival heard the loud buzzing of bees. There were 100’s of bees flying round above 2 hives. Shortly afterwards they swarmed onto the branch of a tall leylandii. They stayed there for about an hour. We collected them and put them into a nuc. Could that be a mating swarm? There was one colony in the apiary from which a queen was due to hatch about 3 days ago. I wonder if that could have been it. Will check the colony, but wasn’t sure if a mating swarm would hang around for that long. It’s an area that swarms are attracted to.
Sounds more like a swarm than a mating swarm. A queen does not take a mating flight until she is at least 5 days old so the timing does not seem right. A mating swarm involves a queen and just a few hundred bees. If it is more than that it is most likely a swarm.
I am interested in up to 6 AMM queens to convert existing stock. Can you tell me if an when you may have them available to ship to England.
If you order now it will probably be about 4 weeks as I have a lot of orders in already which I have to post out first.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
Hi
I. Was wondering when would delivery be for Queens ordered now.
Many thanks
Denis
probably about 3 weeks. There is always a backlog of prepaid orders to clear.
I have collected what I believed to be swarms in a skep and housed the swarm in a nuc only to find that the bees have left the nuc about an hour later and gone back to their original hive. Each time this has happened the bees have indeed flown at a lower level (~10 ft above the ground) and this type of “swarm” was also much quieter than an actual swarm where the bees fill the sky above the apiary. I have also concluded that this has been a mating flight and that the bees were just accompanying the young virgin for whatever reason.
Good afternoon can I place an order for 2021 ?
Thanks and regards . Christian
No problem. have quite a few orders in already. Just use the Paypal button on the order page.
Jonathan
Hello Jon,
I witnessed this myself last Summer, she is a great grand daughter of one of your queens.
Just like you described, not enough bees for a swarm, quiet and drifting along behind the apiary, reminded me of those dust devils. It only traveled around thirty metres or so and a check of the bees showed a load of bees fanning at the entrance of one of the nucs.
Steve.
Hello Jonathan,
May I inquire whether or not it is too late to establish a colony of bees this year? How available are nucs and how long would the wait be?
Thank you,
Norman Armstrong.
Hi Norman.
I don’t sell nucs, only queens
Jonathan
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Hi j are the girls mated ?? Sorry me welsh thick
Yes, I only sell mated queens
Jonathan